National Pride – where’s our Ageless Wisdom?

It’s funny the things we identify with isn’t it? Consider national pride… such a curious belief. After all, why would we take pride in something we have no significant part in shaping? We pop out on a specific patch of land and it can seem to define our whole life. We use it to measure our experiences against, identify with, and even recoil from. A pride or shame, basking or wincing, heightened and deflated egos based on something wholly external to our being, out of our control.

Someone tells you: “Your country is beautiful!” How do you react? Does your heart swell with pride? Of course, it’s not really your heart but a part of you that identifies positively with something that is not you. Are you proud because the area of land you live on looks postcard pretty, has a fascinating history or is abundant in wealth or creativity? Again, it is not you – you should be taken neither up nor down by the accolade in relation to the value of you as a person. And yet do we not do this.

What is a border… who decided where to put it? Can your self-worth be crushed or your spirits be raised by the fate of ‘your sporting team’ from the country you have on your birth certificate, or even the region you identify with, hating those living 20 minutes the other side of a man-made boundary because an idea planted in your head calls them ‘different’?  And what of the politics of your nation, the culture you get steeped in, the religions that permeate your life, the beliefs forged, the history known, the ‘achievements’ recognised? It is worth repeating – none of this is you!

‘Scotland Shame’ ran one famous headline from my country of birth regarding the blight of Sectarianism, and the violent religious prejudice that divides a great many. But is that every person in the country’s shame? Whose shame is it? And why feel shame – what is it offering? Is there within a true call to responsibility to address the issue that led to the headline? Where is the healing in this? We can so easily be undone by a man-made loathing wrapped up in a geographical location that has reverberated beyond our current lifetime.

Is it national pride that keeps us from caring about people suffering in the Mexican drug wars with its mass-scale corruption and violent soap opera culture – (a readymade Netflix series, ‘Narcos,’ for a new century re-cycling Columbia’s past – same energy, different location); or the human rights abuses in the Middle East where women can be raped and put in jail as if criminal offenders, as we in the West turn a blind eye because our comfortable pasture ranks higher in importance than the rights of women in a ‘foreign’ country? Even the madness of gun control in the self-proclaimed ‘greatest country in the world,’ USA, where some minds want to arm teachers rather than address the root causes that have normalised gun wielding security guards in their schools. It’s not our country so who cares… leave them to their mess.

Yet perhaps it is your country. And if so, do you measure up and say, “Well, we have this problem but at least we’re not in Damascus or Mogadishu or Palestine,” or you justify and defend the loveless situation because something made you proud of ‘your’ nation and its culture; the proud relief that you do something ‘better’ than someone else. We might have a problem with domestic violence or religious bigotry but we grow the best tasting peaches.

Where do such feelings of attachment lead us, such identification with an area or a race of people? It has led us to a ‘look after our own’ mentality, to disconnect us from our natural brotherhood, blocking our loving intelligence when at heart we know we are inextricably interconnected. Must we live in such a protective bubble against the ‘unknown others’ who we perceive to look and be different, and even consider dangerous, when in fact they are just as we are – only born into different circumstances?

To have pride in the culture, food or language of our geographical location strips us of knowing who we are beyond the things we do, the way we live, the illusion of individuality.

National pride is so often narrow-minded. Have appreciation for where you live for sure, feel blessed, enjoy what’s on offer, but to identify as a nationality, separate to another, better, unique, keeping others out of your heart because they occupy a different piece of land on this globe is not our truth. It is in fact a lie. This is the lie we easily believe, and this is madness. It doesn’t tell the truth of the Ageless Wisdom that binds us, the science of our interconnected past, present and future, the particles, the stars and the Universe.

Don’t believe me? So be it. But one day you’ll come to see that we are all from one source, that those particles are bound up in each other far more than our current ways of living allow us to see, with not a national flag in sight, and no one’s shame or pride to carry, no burden we need bear. Love where you grew up, love where you live, but know you are so much more than this. This current world needs you more than ever to be everything you are, not a symbol of one small patch of land but a Universal Man* living in connection, with and for Humanity.

(*denotes man or woman, not gender specific)

By Stephen Gammack, Sydney, Australia

Related Reading:
Countries in Comfort
We are all one
Understanding the Energetic Responsibility of a Nation

690 thoughts on “National Pride – where’s our Ageless Wisdom?

  1. The thing is, in national pride, there isn’t even an ounce of true care and love. It’s just a convenient identification we can choose to associate with every now and then to feel elated and/or stimulated. It’s not even skin deep. If we were able to truly relate to and care what we feel belong to, whether that is a family, a country, the Universe, we would not be allowing any kind of abuse whatsoever in any corner.

    1. The pull to unity is always there. It is innate in us. So our deviation from it, well demonstrated by Brexit, has to be constantly fuelled and perpetuated. This takes a lot of energy and keeps, for example, a rotten media industry in business.

      1. There is a huge amount of disruption, panic, drive, unsettlement and possibly fear of the unknown that clearly is showing our deviation from unity through Brexit… but I am wondering if through the mess the path of national pride and individualism is being highlighted even more, so we can see it more clearly?

  2. I’ve just seen a programme about the US/Mexican border and the full-time effort and quantity of resources being put into enforcing it. The man patrolling the area seemed passionate about ‘keeping the US safe’ – no country wants drugs being smuggled across but also there are also many people involved. It mentioned the children who had died in the US detention centres. Despite promoting what he was doing, the patrol officer mentioned many times he was just doing his job, enforcing the law and that he didn’t make the rules, the people decided them. I have to say I’m always dubious when people refer to the rightness of enforcing the laws of a country as a reason for an action without considering the purpose of the law itself. Needing to refer to ‘I’m just doing my job’ and not the purpose within that job, seems to relay a doubt in what one is doing.

    1. What happens when you blindly follow and/or enforce anything that you just do because it is your job? Throughout history there have been executioners just doing their job, but what have they given up within themselves?

  3. In this process of identifying with things outside of us we have created a separation and division that is in fact not true. We are by nature interdependent and harmonious within a divine order.

  4. ‘What is a border… who decided where to put it?’ I remember geography and history as a child and being amazed at how obviously arbitrary borders were and yet people didn’t seem to question this or the bloody acquisition of land. I questioned our collective sanity, repeating atrocities for something so false. But then there were some wars I felt weren’t about borders at all, they were about standing for truth and love on epic scale. Those I could understand.

  5. I can’t say that I have ever accepted ‘national pride’, for what’s the pride in – Do our smiles radiate the love inside us? Are we living truly vital lives into our old age? Do we get on with our neighbours better than ever? Is our alcohol dropping enormously? Do we have no homelessness and no jobless? If not, what exactly are we proud of? Our rate of sickness and disease? How many people die each week from domestic abuse? How many lives are wrecked by drugs?At the unemployment levels? Globally, that’s nothing to be proud of.

    1. ‘Globally, that’s nothing to be proud of.’ So true. There is nowhere that is not affected, some places are more obvious, others are trying to hide away in comfort pretending they are unaffected. We are all in this together.

      1. Not so long ago I saw an awesome cartoon of a boat that was sinking at one end. The two people at the top of the boat were not concerned about the people closest to the water in their comfort of not feeling like they were in immediate danger. It certainly cut through the arrogance that believes the hardships of life only affect a certain portion of humanity

  6. It feels like because we have lost the awareness of our knowing of the Ageless Wisdom, we have turned to national pride to replace it, feeling the loss of the wisdom within ourselves, we go with a poor substitute that actually separates us, rather than bind us altogether. We can learn to see through the games that are played and then we don’t get hooked in.

    1. One of the most awesome antidotes I found to the separation between nations before I came across the Ageless Wisdom Teachings was to travel and live in different countries. From a step back I was able to assess my own culture and put it into context against other ones as well as meeting so many people from various backgrounds. It really did not take me long to understand that we are really all the same, with the same aspirations and need to love and be loved.

      1. Michelle, I felt this truth at school being brought up in multicultural London. With so many children and adults from different backgrounds, cultures and religions it was easy to observe that we are all the same in heart.

      2. I work in a place in the centre of London that has one of the country’s highest footfall of visitors. I get to sample the multicultural world every day at work.

  7. Said like this it really puts things into perspective ‘We pop out on a specific patch of land and it can seem to define our whole life.’ I have never understood boundaries and borders in how can we claim a patch of land and call it our own (country) when it is not ours at all!!!!

  8. National pride is such a curious belief that gets under our skin when we are young. My granddaughters live in Scotland but are not Scottish, they are at primary school and have expressed a few comments about the education very innocently, however there is the thread of nationalism that comes through.

  9. ‘What is a border… who decided where to put it?’ Great question that highlights the arbitrary nature of things. And when it’s this arbitrary, not based on any truth, we can question and change it. Interesting how defended the borders are, as if they define who we are when, in truth they don’t.

  10. Pride; means we value something more than something else. What the ‘else’ is, doesn’t matter because it is a judgement. Which is a wedge we pound in between us and others?

  11. What happens when you lose national pride? Brexit and the orange vests in France are just two examples of people losing fate in something they had left others to deal with. Anarchy and apathy can creep in, both cause us to contract.

    1. National pride is a substitute for the love we avoid. When nationalism breaks down, we are still left with the lovelessness we looked to nationalism to provide the antidote for.

  12. “National pride is so often narrow-minded. Have appreciation for where you live for sure, feel blessed, enjoy what’s on offer, but to identify as a nationality, separate to another, better, unique, keeping others out of your heart because they occupy a different piece of land on this globe is not our truth” I love this Stephen. We need to come together, not separate.

  13. Is Nationalism just a reaction to the fact that we do not acknowledge that we are in essence the same and we want to differentiate ourselves from another in order to feel superior or control another group?

  14. Having been born in Germany and moved to other countries while young only to be deposited in the UK at the age of 14. There was absolutely no sense that this was my country or that I was British therefore I should have a claim or a right to it. To me, it felt like I had just moved to another country no different than all the others, the only difference being is that I had extended family here and I could understand everything that was being said to me. I stayed in the UK for five years and then I was off again.

  15. “…. we are all from one source, that those particles are bound up in each other far more than our current ways of living allow us to see, with not a national flag in sight, …” I love this Stephen and its so true, especially with all the nonsense that’s going on politically in the UK currently.

  16. I recall a close friend who periodically visited me from another country, with whom I enjoyed sharing things. At times when I would point to something beautiful, like a beautiful aspect of the scenery or something amazing about someone, the response coming back would be about how the scenery in her country was just as beautiful or more magnificent, or how the people in her country did this or that. I always found it strange that things got translated into a cultural comparison, and it felt like a block for us in truly enjoying and appreciating what was in front of us.

  17. We seem to have forgotten we are all from the same one source, that there is a wisdom, the Ageless Wisdom, that binds us, and we have an interconnected past, present and future. All we need to do is look up at the stars at night and we can feel our connection to the stars and the Universe, this is much grander and greater than any national pride.

    1. Yes gazing up at the stars at night transcends borders. I am acutely aware of this when I travel, knowing that the stars I am viewing are the same everywhere, but form a different angle maybe or a different constellation. We are made of stardust.

  18. If we imagine the world as one body, and each nation representing a different organ or body system, it would appear that this body is very dis-eased and unwell due to a lack of harmony and oneness which is actually against its natural order and way of being.

    1. What a great analogy. How we approach the malaise of the world is just like how we treat the body – specialists in one area, sure they are needed, but no universal, holistic approach; little communication between departments and a lot of repetition of scans and tests etc. costing us time and money. I’m seeing with Brexit how much we are invested in drama, complication and delay. I know I have to commit to what’s needed next and not wish for a different decision but bring all I can to the table.

  19. When a crisis happens so far away or ‘not in my country’, how easy is it to turn a blind eye and continue in the same comforts that we have surrounding us. It is a classic situation where we do nothing until such time that we get affected by this in some way. This is not to say we should all sell our homes and go overseas to fight wars, but rather it is about us understanding what is happening on a macro scale and seeing how we might perhaps be contributing to this on a microscale. This alone can begin the change that we know is needed in our current world.

  20. If we have any wisdom, we would take no pride in our nation or nationality. It is not rocket science to see where such pride has led us again and again. We, that is all of humanity is one family and we should have one nation, the world.

    1. If we did have one nation namely the world, we would never need another war again. What is it that stops us thinking the obvious and instead continuing to make the same mistakes as we have made for thousands of years. e.g. Brexit.

  21. Pride has much to answer for in this world – whether it be personal, groups or national pride, it has the same affect.

  22. It seems to me the whole notion of separate countries with borders and boundaries is so arbitary to begin with and creates the division and the separation that leads to one nation competing or comparing themselves to another.

      1. Yes and it occurs to me now after reading your comment that these borders extend beyond the obvious country ones and are everywhere – religious groups, sports teams, genders, jobs and professions….we humans put up ‘borders’ everywhere designed to segregate and divide one another and perhaps this is where we need to start and if we dismantle these daily borders then maybe the global picture of what our world looks like will start to shift?

  23. National pride is trying to stand up in the UK with Brexit. It was offered as a lot of things that on the surface sound good. But, it depends on who is selling it and what their hidden agendas are. The European Union is like a Siamese twin and very difficult to separate.

    1. Hitler was also big on national pride…just goes to show what you are saying here is correct Steve. Rather than blindly just believing the hype and spin, it would pay us all to really discern what the real agendas are behind the scenes.

      1. Yes Steve and Andrew, history shows that national pride can be used very efficiently to manipulate and control the masses. And unfortunately we do not seem to be that great at learning our lessons as the media hype that led to the Brexit vote demonstrated and the nonsense that is still being circulated because the winning cards of ‘national pride’ and ‘looking after my own pocket’ mentality is being played.

  24. ‘We pop out on a specific patch of land…’ and then can choose to be identified by the beliefs that come with that place or explore the responsibility we have for being there and what our life purpose is.

  25. With national pride we become blind to the things that we need to see, be honest about and work on to change together. It’s like seeing ‘my child as doing no wrong’. I have always felt that the reason for people from multiple nationalities end up living in the same place (for any reason) is so that we do come to understand that there is no difference between us. To go beyond the surface of language, appearance, food and see what is the essence of us all.

    1. And perhaps that is the reason for the current refugee crisis … for all of humanity to learn to live together as one nation.

  26. I recall when I was around 8-9, there was a nursery rhyme going around and sung by the kids in my class which was very derogatory to a neighbouring country. There had been some disagreement between the two countries about who owned something or another and this jingle seemed a defiant reaction to that. I hated it, I found the words disrespectful and unkind and did not want to have anything to do with the whole behaviour.
    Looking back I can see that example shows how we get to identify with nations and become nationalistic. It is not by any means shape or form innate – it is taught.

  27. I’ll never forget the shock horror another New Zealander went into when they heard me (I’m technically a New Zealander) say I was Australian when asked where I was from. I don’t really mind where I’m from but it seems other people do!

    1. I used to think I was proud to be Scottish until I went to live there and discovered that they wouldn’t accept I was Scottish because I sounded English. As I detached myself from any pride I started to observe the true state of living for most of the Scots I met and it was very far from healthy. If being Scottish was living in this self destructive fashion then I no longer had any desire to be considered Scottish.

  28. Is having national pride in where we live and who we belong to a huge deflection from claiming and living our innermost true nature and our belonging to the all?

  29. Sometimes we go to places and act in a way we would never do in our own country and then wonder why people give us a bad name. This behaviour is evident with tourists and it comes down to seeing others as less and not having an appreciation for yourself and those around you and the country you are in at that moment. If we treated every place we went to as our home there would be more of an appreciative relationship with that country and its people.

  30. National pride serves no-one and holds us separate from each other, the Ageless Wisdom teaches we are all one and the same. It really is time to break down the borders that exist on land and in our minds.

  31. We pride ourselves on geolocation of birth but on our behaviour and contribution to society… seems strange when we take a step back from our antics.

  32. ‘National pride is so often narrow-minded.’ With national pride we become so closed and disconnected from others. I have just learned that at the end of WWII many of the Polish RAF pilots who played an incredibly significant role in the Battle of Britain, were repatriated. A poll taken by the British public at that time showed that 56% of the people wanted the Polish airmen to go back to Poland despite the fact there was very little left to it to go back to. Many that did were either imprisoned or killed by the Russians. When we filter relationships by label rather than simply connecting to another human being as another human being we are failing each other and ourselves hugely.

  33. The Truth of things goes much deeper than what we can identify by, the truth of things is an energetic truth that considers the quality and intention behind everything in life.

  34. When we identify with anything we are really talking about ownership and membership and that really goes against our own true nature.

    1. And as someone in the UK at the moment these consequences feel awful. What is also of note is that it has become a major distraction, time and money drain whilst all round us very real and pressings things need attention… health, education, social standards…

  35. What is it that we are proud of in our nations? The beautiful scenery, great climate, the ease of travel, lots to do? The increasing rate of illness and disease, including mental ill health and suicides, increased relationship turmoils, more suspicious of those from differing cultures, increasing use of drugs and alcohol? We need to be able to see it all, not just focus on the pretty and not see where we are heading.

  36. While I can understand why people want nationalism, national pride makes no sense to me, we are one nation – the globe. Boarders make no sense if you know you are one global nation.

  37. I wonder why we have to keep our divisions. If there is something to celebrate why not share it, with no personal identification, so that everyone else is at the same level and also benefiting from it – and if it can not be truly shared, is it something to be celebrated in the first place?

  38. Is it possible that cultural pride keeps us falsely inflated at the expense of another? I am wondering, what if we all celebrated our similarities and collective humanity… would we not be more united?

      1. Yes, we would fully appreciate the differences of each expression, whilst appreciating the divinity of each too. This would cut out our need to compare, belittle and judge others who may be different from ourselves. There would be no ‘bigging up’ ourselves either, as equality with others would be truly known.

  39. The pride we can hold because of an external feature of our culture is from the tendency to inflate the self to crush the self-worth of others that do not have this cultural feature. It is just one of the forms we use to keep us separated and not connected as one.

  40. As of young, I could not understand why you should hate people coming from a certain country as I saw people doing around me. And now I can say that I hate the division in countries, cultures and languages as it separates and keeps us in all kinds of divisions while in the core of our being we are all from the same source.

  41. Perhaps pride involves bolstering the individual by taking credit for making something happen or even just being associated with it.

    1. Yes I feel that we use the word pride to hide what we really want to say. A mother or father can say I am so proud of you but what do they really mean? I feel that we need to ask the question.

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